Posts by Island Man

  • Island Man
    23

    The folly of Watchtower's theodicy. Or, why would an all-powerful and all-wise God need to justify his sovereignty through suffering?

    by Island Man in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    watchtower says that evil and suffering exist at present to vindicate jehovah as being the only one qualified to govern; to bear witness to man's inability to govern himself independent of god and under satan's direction.

    the claim is made that the questions raised by satan regarding god's motives as universal sovereign can only be answered by allowing humans to see the evil and suffering that results when man lives independent of god's protection and direction.. watchtower and jws seem to think that this is the best theodicy in the world.

    but there are some serious flaws in it.. 1. such a theodicy suggests that all perfect and intelligent creation, up until the advent of adam and eve, did not know god and his ways well enough to be confident that his motives as universal sovereign are pure.

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  • Island Man
    Island Man
    It always got me that after all this suffering and woe... After mankind Finally understands and can see how much we need god to rule over everything for us... Once the point is made for all time, never to be questioned by mankind again...
    "The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind."
    It will all be for nothing - because nobody remembers the lesson learned. Well played Yahweh, well played.

    That's another very good point I forgot to mention.

  • purrpurr
    17

    Photosynthesis and the problem with the creation story

    by purrpurr in
    1. watchtower
    2. bible

    i just noticed in the bible that on day three, god created the plants and trees on the earth.... day four, god created the sun, moon and stars!

    so that means that the vegetation that is by its very nature dependant upon light to grow and photosynthesise was created a day before the sun that it needs to live!???.

    this gets even more strange when you factor in the jw exhuse that a day to god is like a thousand years.

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    2. Vidiot
    3. Simon
  • Island Man
    Island Man
    If I remember correctly, JWs resolve this issue by saying that what happened on day 4 isn't the literal creation of the sun moon and stars but only their being made discernible as distinct objects in the sky. Prior to that sunlight was already reaching the earth's surface from day one when God said let light come to be. Only, the sunlight was diffuse, shining through a haze and one could not make out the sun or any other heavenly body as distinct objects in the sky. They basically teach that what happened on day 4 is the clearing of the atmospheric clouds to allow heavenly objects to be distinctly discernible for the first time.